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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most important gift you can give your daughters is the model of your own joy in your unique self. That and unconditional love and acceptance of their unique selves. And both of these also from their dad. I&#039;m not sure much else matters. Yes, maybe the sense, from an early age, that, although their parents&#039; love is all they need, their parents&#039; skills and points of view are not the only ones, and they themselves may turn out to be different, and that&#039;s fine...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most important gift you can give your daughters is the model of your own joy in your unique self. That and unconditional love and acceptance of their unique selves. And both of these also from their dad. I&#8217;m not sure much else matters. Yes, maybe the sense, from an early age, that, although their parents&#8217; love is all they need, their parents&#8217; skills and points of view are not the only ones, and they themselves may turn out to be different, and that&#8217;s fine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirsten Bole (http://crowstoburnaby.com)sent me the following comment in email during the time comments were broken on the blog:

Ah, this does sound familiar.  I was put in ballet classes briefly
around age 6, in an optimistic attempt to get me some semblance of
coordination and grace.  The only thing I remember from those classes
was an exercise where we had to run around the room kicking our heels
against our bums.  A quarter of a century later, I still feel like
that&#039;s about the extent of my elegance.

Like you, I sometimes think I missed something about femininity along
the line.  From about grade 9 on, most of my friends have been male.  I
usually seem to have one or two close female friends but never a gaggle
of girls to bond with.  My daily make-up routine clocks at about 5
minutes, maybe 10 if it&#039;s a special occasion; I&#039;ve never understood why
so many women supposedly take an hour to get ready in the morning. 
What are they doing?  Are they laughing at me because I forgot a step?

I see a lot of blog posts pondering what it means to be female, and how
we function in a male-oriented society, and I draw a blank.  I&#039;m happy
to be female.  But I just am what I am.  I don&#039;t know how to define
womanness, but it seems like we&#039;re all expected to explain ourselves. 
I&#039;d rather just *be*, and not get too hung up on the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirsten Bole (<a href="http://crowstoburnaby.com)sent" rel="nofollow">http://crowstoburnaby.com)sent</a> me the following comment in email during the time comments were broken on the blog:</p>
<p>Ah, this does sound familiar.  I was put in ballet classes briefly<br />
around age 6, in an optimistic attempt to get me some semblance of<br />
coordination and grace.  The only thing I remember from those classes<br />
was an exercise where we had to run around the room kicking our heels<br />
against our bums.  A quarter of a century later, I still feel like<br />
that&#8217;s about the extent of my elegance.</p>
<p>Like you, I sometimes think I missed something about femininity along<br />
the line.  From about grade 9 on, most of my friends have been male.  I<br />
usually seem to have one or two close female friends but never a gaggle<br />
of girls to bond with.  My daily make-up routine clocks at about 5<br />
minutes, maybe 10 if it&#8217;s a special occasion; I&#8217;ve never understood why<br />
so many women supposedly take an hour to get ready in the morning.<br />
What are they doing?  Are they laughing at me because I forgot a step?</p>
<p>I see a lot of blog posts pondering what it means to be female, and how<br />
we function in a male-oriented society, and I draw a blank.  I&#8217;m happy<br />
to be female.  But I just am what I am.  I don&#8217;t know how to define<br />
womanness, but it seems like we&#8217;re all expected to explain ourselves.<br />
I&#8217;d rather just *be*, and not get too hung up on the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julieleung.com/archives/1747/comment-page-1#comment-1708</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Vis sent me this comment during the time comments were not working:

Julie, you are not alone.  Perhaps most of the women I
know would be equally clueless about these matters.  I
tend to get along with them better.  Who are they
though?  You&#039;ve mentioned some of the characteristics,
but they lack a name.  &quot;Tomboy&quot; isn&#039;t it.  I have
tried calling you a &quot;nerd&quot; before:
http://www.julieleung.com/archives/001365.html

What you are describing here isn&#039;t quite nerd-ness. 
It has similar characteristics.  It is different in a
way we secretly feel is better.  It causes problems on
those occasions on which we wish to fit in.  It is
also different from just being a nerd.  It is gender
specific and is characterized by an indifference* to
the slew of characteristics of womanhood described in
this post and the one linked to in the prior
paragraph.  If you could come up with a name for these
people and a description that resonates with them, you
might create a phenomenon!

* &quot;Indifference&quot; should be distinguished from
&quot;rejection.&quot;  A rejection of traditional
characteristics is nothing new.  The nonjudgmental
indifference you use distinguishes the women I refer to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Vis sent me this comment during the time comments were not working:</p>
<p>Julie, you are not alone.  Perhaps most of the women I<br />
know would be equally clueless about these matters.  I<br />
tend to get along with them better.  Who are they<br />
though?  You&#8217;ve mentioned some of the characteristics,<br />
but they lack a name.  &#8220;Tomboy&#8221; isn&#8217;t it.  I have<br />
tried calling you a &#8220;nerd&#8221; before:<br />
<a href="http://www.julieleung.com/archives/001365.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.julieleung.com/archives/001365.html</a></p>
<p>What you are describing here isn&#8217;t quite nerd-ness.<br />
It has similar characteristics.  It is different in a<br />
way we secretly feel is better.  It causes problems on<br />
those occasions on which we wish to fit in.  It is<br />
also different from just being a nerd.  It is gender<br />
specific and is characterized by an indifference* to<br />
the slew of characteristics of womanhood described in<br />
this post and the one linked to in the prior<br />
paragraph.  If you could come up with a name for these<br />
people and a description that resonates with them, you<br />
might create a phenomenon!</p>
<p>* &#8220;Indifference&#8221; should be distinguished from<br />
&#8220;rejection.&#8221;  A rejection of traditional<br />
characteristics is nothing new.  The nonjudgmental<br />
indifference you use distinguishes the women I refer to.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in an era and setting where using cosmetics etc. wasn&#039;t cool.  I also rebelled against my mother&#039;s obsession with appearance, so, while I can &quot;clean up good&quot; in the cowboy phrase, I go through the day bare-faced and un-coiffure&#039;d. 

My daughter, now 16, happily likes her girly self and her athletic self, and sees no reason to chose between the two. 

I am not sure why a ballet recital requires makeup.  But a performance surely would require stage makeup -- to overcome the distance, to make the face real at a distance.

Being able to contain one&#039;s long hair into a tidy round knob is a good skill, not necessarily girly. Mine&#039;s as long as it was in 1968 -- no reason, I just like it long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in an era and setting where using cosmetics etc. wasn&#8217;t cool.  I also rebelled against my mother&#8217;s obsession with appearance, so, while I can &#8220;clean up good&#8221; in the cowboy phrase, I go through the day bare-faced and un-coiffure&#8217;d. </p>
<p>My daughter, now 16, happily likes her girly self and her athletic self, and sees no reason to chose between the two. </p>
<p>I am not sure why a ballet recital requires makeup.  But a performance surely would require stage makeup &#8212; to overcome the distance, to make the face real at a distance.</p>
<p>Being able to contain one&#8217;s long hair into a tidy round knob is a good skill, not necessarily girly. Mine&#8217;s as long as it was in 1968 &#8212; no reason, I just like it long.</p>
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